Comments on: Zimbra to replace WebMail and central calendar systems http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/ A weekly newsletter about information technology at K-State. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:01:31 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: ToeBee http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-61 ToeBee Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:32:40 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-61 I love how everyone calls our mail system "Webmail" with a capital W as if it is a proper noun. I believe the current webmail system is nothing more than an IMP (http://www.horde.org/imp/) installation that talks to the central IMAP servers. It is only one of several ways to access your K-State email. I can understand the general university population using the terms "email" and "webmail" interchangably but I kind of expect official press releases to do better. This is not the first time I have seen it. I love how everyone calls our mail system “Webmail” with a capital W as if it is a proper noun. I believe the current webmail system is nothing more than an IMP (http://www.horde.org/imp/) installation that talks to the central IMAP servers. It is only one of several ways to access your K-State email. I can understand the general university population using the terms “email” and “webmail” interchangably but I kind of expect official press releases to do better. This is not the first time I have seen it.

]]> By: Marin Dowlin http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Marin Dowlin Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:43:36 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-51 There have been some serious outage problems with gmail and google apps recently. When we were looking at it there were some issues about owning the data, integration, and access to support. With Zimbra we put it in the SLA (Service Level Agreement) that assures us of those things. Google wouldn't let us do that. If you look at the grid on the committee site you'll see why. http://www.k-state.edu/infotech/projects/email/materials.html There have been some serious outage problems with gmail and google apps recently. When we were looking at it there were some issues about owning the data, integration, and access to support. With Zimbra we put it in the SLA (Service Level Agreement) that assures us of those things. Google wouldn’t let us do that. If you look at the grid on the committee site you’ll see why.

http://www.k-state.edu/infotech/projects/email/materials.html

]]> By: Brandon http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Brandon Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:14:04 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-46 Why are we waiting until January for the switch? Is this how long it will take to prepare things on the backend for Zimbra? Why are we waiting until January for the switch? Is this how long it will take to prepare things on the backend for Zimbra?

]]> By: Larry Havenstein http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Larry Havenstein Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:38:19 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-43 You are seeing the free versions of those systems, when you pay money for it like K-State will be doing there are no ads. That goes for both Google or Yahoo products. Also in both cases which ever would have been picked, K-State System Administrators will be able to do account management with the system. That was one of the requirements to allow iTech and CTS staff to better help the campus users. I wasn't on the team that helped pick Zimbra but did see the requirements and how the various products stacked up. Zimbra filled all the requirements and most of the nice to have parts. You are seeing the free versions of those systems, when you pay money for it like K-State will be doing there are no ads. That goes for both Google or Yahoo products.

Also in both cases which ever would have been picked, K-State System Administrators will be able to do account management with the system. That was one of the requirements to allow iTech and CTS staff to better help the campus users.

I wasn’t on the team that helped pick Zimbra but did see the requirements and how the various products stacked up. Zimbra filled all the requirements and most of the nice to have parts.

]]> By: GB http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-42 GB Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:36:11 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-42 How will campus listserv's be handled? What version of Zimbra will we use, Standard or Professional? How will campus listserv’s be handled? What version of Zimbra will we use, Standard or Professional?

]]> By: Robert Harrold http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Robert Harrold Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:18:56 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-38 I think many colleges and universities are turned off from gmail because it has that small section of ads that can't be turned off. Personally I don't like how many Yahoo logo's there are on zimbra, hopefully some of them can be removed. I think many colleges and universities are turned off from gmail because it has that small section of ads that can’t be turned off. Personally I don’t like how many Yahoo logo’s there are on zimbra, hopefully some of them can be removed.

]]> By: Larry Havenstein http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Larry Havenstein Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:59:18 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-36 Ouch, that's got to hurt Google that Stanford picked Zimbra. It is better though if you want integration with Outlook or PDAs. Ouch, that’s got to hurt Google that Stanford picked Zimbra. It is better though if you want integration with Outlook or PDAs.

]]> By: Rod http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Rod Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:47:22 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-35 Is going to work like Microsoft Exchange? Will it keep all my Outlook contacts, calendar, and email in sync on my Desktop, Laptop, and phone? Is going to work like Microsoft Exchange? Will it keep all my Outlook contacts, calendar, and email in sync on my Desktop, Laptop, and phone?

]]> By: Robert Harrold http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Robert Harrold Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:36:24 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-32 I don't know why a public computer wouldn't allow you to open the message but Zimbra should fix the problem because it doesn't have to change pages in order to view the message. If you go to Zimbra's website there is a free demo on the home page the allows you to open a fake email account and see what it all will look like and how it will work. For now if you are having problems with webmail you can log in to your e-profile and have all your email forwarded to a different email account such as a gmail or a hotmail account. I personally have mine forwarded to a gmail account because it loads faster than webmail and it is easier to navigate and because of it's 7gb's of storage I never have to delete any of my messages. I don’t know why a public computer wouldn’t allow you to open the message but Zimbra should fix the problem because it doesn’t have to change pages in order to view the message. If you go to Zimbra’s website there is a free demo on the home page the allows you to open a fake email account and see what it all will look like and how it will work.
For now if you are having problems with webmail you can log in to your e-profile and have all your email forwarded to a different email account such as a gmail or a hotmail account. I personally have mine forwarded to a gmail account because it loads faster than webmail and it is easier to navigate and because of it’s 7gb’s of storage I never have to delete any of my messages.

]]> By: Dan http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-29 Dan Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:26:21 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-29 I'm still wondering as to why you went with Zimbra instead of Google Apps. Could you please give us the advantages of Zimbra over Google Apps? I’m still wondering as to why you went with Zimbra instead of Google Apps. Could you please give us the advantages of Zimbra over Google Apps?

]]> By: Elizabeth Dodd http://itnews.itac.k-state.edu/2008/08/zimbra-to-replace-webmail-and-central-calendar-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Elizabeth Dodd Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:51:48 +0000 http://itnews.itac.ksu.edu/?p=301#comment-23 Frequently when I travel, I rely on Webmail. Not infrequently, however, (and including just the week before classes), when I attempt to access my account through a public computer, Webmail "times out" and does not allow me to open any messages. I can see the list of in my inbox, but when I click on any message, Webmail will be "timed out." How will this problem be corrected with Zimbra? Frequently when I travel, I rely on Webmail. Not infrequently, however, (and including just the week before classes), when I attempt to access my account through a public computer, Webmail “times out” and does not allow me to open any messages. I can see the list of in my inbox, but when I click on any message, Webmail will be “timed out.” How will this problem be corrected with Zimbra?

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